Tuesday, September 23, 2008

ISSUE OF THE DAY! PRO LIFE VS. PRO CHOICE

I realize that this can be a very sensitive subject. So let's discuss it that way. I know that there seems to be so many "grey areas" when talking about this particular issue. However, in my mind, it's real easy to make simple. God gives the gift of life, and life begins at conception. So it doesn't really matter how the baby was conceived, it has been conceived, and therefore is life. I am sure that if I was raped and became pregnant that would be a very trying, emotional, and most difficult thing to go thru. My only question is, would having an abortion make it better? I just don't believe so. I have heard some neat stories of fabulous people, who are doing great things with their life, who are a product of rape. God has a plan for everyones life. The fact that so many people are using abortion as a form of birth control is just sad. It's just too easy. It makes me sad. I don't think that Obama is all gung ho to kill babies, but he does support Pro Choice. That to be goes against the word of God. What do you think?

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Bible says that before I (God) formed thee in the womb I knew thee. Jer 1:5
I really believe the Bible is Gods Word----- God knows who we are before conception no matter the circumstance--- every human being is precious to God.
When I was a young girl and got pregnant--I was getting advise from every angle--get an abortion you have your whole life ahead of you--and I even considered it, although something in me knew it was wrong. I was not a Christian at the time, but I am so grateful for the women who were honest with me about what it was like to have an abortion. My dad was actually the one who talked me out of it.
I know many women who have been forgiven and set free from guilt from having abortions--through Jesus Christ of course!
I read once that we will never set our eyes on one person that doesn't matter to God (even a person who was concieved by rape)
Im blown away by some of the laws our nation is being divided by and Im going to quote Laurie from your last post---We need to pray!!!

Teri

Dena said...

Ok Kimmy...wow. First off let me begin by saying...it is by no means a form of birth control nor should it be (in my opinion) and while I am pro choice I am also pro life meaning that I know know know how precious and what a blessing it is to be able to have a child for so many that cannot, but I also know that we have choices to make in life with consequences for them and we have been afforded freedoms to make these choices and live with our choices. What is right for you may not be right for someone else...that is the great thing about being free and living in this country.

From a conception stand point...if it were only that easy my friend. Three rounds of IVF...transfer one-three transfered none stuck...transfer two- two blastocycsts (a blast a stage that the cells go into usually five days or past) none stuck
Transfer 3- three put in one stuck and kept sticking giving me my beautiful boy. Who knows which one it was though the Dr. like to assume. And while I'm asking you to try to think in a way that you didn't experience for yourself...when you got pregnant you didn't necessarily worry about whether the baby had a fetal pole, and then a heart beat or not when you had another ultrasound, then if he/she would continue to grow...the conception/pregnancy thing is different when you have struggled and I don't think I would have understood it otherwise.
All I am saying is that conception may be the beginning of life in your eyes, but through mine and others similar to me it may not be. And please please... the conception thing has nothing to do with my views on the abortion topic.

Someone tell me....what is worse...the teen girl who has an abortion early on because she realizes she is not able/ready (ok she is really messed up) to be a mom or the same one who has the baby because they were pressured or their choice goes away and neglects and possibly does enough harm that the baby dies. I know both are horrible and in an ideal world none of this would happen, but it isn't ideal and these things do happen so then what...

Laurie said...

Tough emotional subject for sure. Seems opinions on abortion shall go on forever. I saw a study that abortion is down 33%. That is good news, because less young people and women a like are being more responsible with there choices, and bravely making the choice to keep the baby or adoption. I've seen the pictures as I think anyone who is pro choice should, of the baby with there limbs torn apart and the contorted looks on there little faces, from the " procedure". I made the "choice" to have an abortion many years ago. I was not a woman, but a young girl scared, ashamed, and confused. With that I will say I'm not haunted, carry shame or memorialize the date or emotion of it. When I asked God to forgive a long time ago, he trully did, and I have yet to look back. I say cleanse, because we have all made choices that make us feel weighted down with guilt. I don't know the statistics, but I don't think most abortions stem from rape. I know Dena works with irresponsible young people with crack addicted babies and everything in between, and see's first hand how those babies have to suffer. I don't know, guys, so much sadness all the way around..... and any way you look at it....

Dena said...

Unfortunately Laurie irresponsible young people and adults (remember my CPS time too). I wish we lived in an ideal world and hopefully it won't be something my child will ever have to go through. I don't believe it should be a courts place or anyone elses place to decide on a decision like that for our family. The way the courts move and how things are handled it would be years before a decision would be made.

Anyway in an ideal world I wouldn't be checking family watchdog and metro's site to make sure no new sex predators have moved into my neighborhood or if they have so I know who they are...sad to have to live like that huh. Vegas may not be the place for us for a lot longer...we'll see.